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Arching dos and don'ts

Someone archived the long series of discussion, from July 2011 to November 2021, to WikiAlpha:Community_portal/Archive_1, using a move Sorry, but, IMO, this was absolutely the wrong way to archive discussion pages. Why? Because the revision history is now only accessible from the archives, when it should remain on the original page. It makes trying to look at diffs of previous discussion very confusing. IMO archiving should be done with a cut and paste, which keeps all the revision history on the original fora.

I know that an administrator should be able to go through a series of steps, that merges the histories of two pages, that would correct this mistake. I would take those steps, except I don't know how to do it. Geo Swan (talk) 01:07, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

I restored an old version of this page

At least five of the 6 edits here were made in good faith. Made in good faith, but, mistakenly, in the wrong place. So I rolled back to the last good version of this page, by User:WritingSnowman

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 01:38, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

There has been a lot of recent vandalism

There has been a lot of recent vandalism. I wonder why? Geo Swan (talk) 01:38, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Does the CSD copyright paragraph apply to articles ported from wikipedia, where the wikipedia contributors were not acknowledged...

I am {{ping}}ing User:Richard, User:Mathewignash and User:WritingSnowman, but others opinions are welcome too.

I used to rely on the Save Article button to take care of putting a list of wikipedia contributors on the talk pages of articles I ported. This feature doesn't work anymore, or, at least, it doesn't work, for me. So I manually copy that information when I port an article.

I am not a lawyer, but I think that, technically, it is a legal obligation on the person doing the copying, to acknowledge contributions made under GPL, Creative Commons, etc.

While working on cleaning up the recent vandal I have come across articles that had clearly been copied from the wikipedia, where no effort had been made to acknowledge the wikipedia contributors, and which were missing the {{wp-cca}} tag.

What, if anything, should we do about articles ported from the wikipedia, without proper attribution? Does CSD's paragraph on copyright violations apply to those articles?

I can see an argument being made that obligation to acknowledge the original wikipedia contributors lay on the person who ported the content, so I should "let sleeping dogs lie". Alternatively, it could be argued that recognition of missing acknowledgements should be seen as a serious concern, but not one requiring speedy deletion. Since the people who copied the material were newbies, who honestly didn't understand the licensing requirements, they should be given a longish grace period between when a note is left on their user talk page, and when the unacknowledged port is deleted. A month? Three months?

If I thought I could figure out why the bot that put the wikipedia contributors was no longer working, I'd volunteer to try to fix it. But, I don't know how to do that.

If the savearticlebot could be fixed, maybe it could be modified to work, retroactively? If it were handed the URLs of the wikipedia version of an article, and the wikialpha version, could it copy the revision history from the wikipedia - but stop at the date of creation of the wikialpha version?

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 01:38, 27 September 2022 (UTC)